3-3. Sister Lucy confided, in the 1970s, that "the chastisement predicted by Our Lady in the Third Secret had already begun"...
"Satan, Lucifer in human form, entered into Rome in the year 1972. He cut off the rule, the role of the Holy Father, Pope Paul VI. Lucifer has controlled Rome and continues this control now.
"And I tell you now, My children, unless you pray and make My counsel known to all of the ruling fathers of the Eternal City of Rome, My Son's Church, His House, will be forced into the catacombs. A great struggle lies ahead for mankind. The eventual outcome is for good of all, for this trial in My Son's Church will be a true proving ground for all the faithful. Many latter-day saints shall rise out of the tribulation." - Our Lady of the Roses, September 7, 1978
Numerous witnesses have confirmed that the Third Secret was to be revealed no later than 1960 (1). Sister Lucy said that Our Lady wished the Third Secret to be revealed no later than 1960 "because then it will seem clearer". Many Fatima experts have concluded that the present great apostasy or crisis of faith in the Church was a subject of the Third Secret, hence, the meaning of Sister Lucy's words that "then it will seem clearer". But in addition to warning about apostasy in the Church, the Third Secret also mentioned a date, a fact confirmed by statements of Sister Lucy, Pope John XXIII, Cardinal Ottaviani, and Our Lady of the Roses message:
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The Third Secret of Fatima was to be revealed in 1960: "because the blessed Virgin wishes it so." (Sister Lucy)
"I gave Lucy the Revelation as a temporary secret—as I revealed [the Third Secret] to you on two occasions. Make a concerted effort to bring its entirety to Our children on earth. The hierarchy have not listened to My counsel—thirty-two years lost in indecision and fear of exposure. The Faith is shattered for many."
(locution from Our Lady to Veronica Lueken, April 29, 1992)
Our Lady of Fatima said, "If My requests are heeded, many souls will be saved and there will be peace." Among Her requests was that the Third Secret of Fatima be revealed to the world no later than 1960. In the words of Brother Michael of the Holy Trinity (Little Brothers of the Sacred Heart), even if we know what the themes of this Secret are, "nothing is so important, so necessary, so urgent as to make known the text in its limpid truth, in its full prophetic richness, in its divine profundity and transcendence. For between everything we could say about it, and the very words of the Queen of Prophets, there is of course an abyss!!"
In 1946, Sister Lucy was asked when the Third Secret would be revealed to the world, and without hesitation she said, "In 1960." In 1955 Cardinal Ottaviani asked her why it was not to be opened before 1960. She told him, "because then it will seem clearer (mais claro)." Sister Lucy had made the Bishop of Fatima-Leiria promise that the Secret would be read to the world at her death, but in no event later than 1960, "because the blessed Virgin wishes it so." And from Canon Barthas: "Moreover, it [the Third Secret] will soon be known, since Sister Lucy affirms that Our Lady wills that it can be published beginning in 1960."
In 1960:
Many reliable witnesses, including Our Lady’s message at Bayside, allow us to establish the fact with certitude, that the Third Secret was to be revealed to the world no later than 1960, by express wish of Our Lady of Fatima:
Cardinal Cerejeira: “From the two parts of the Secret already revealed, the third part has not been made known, but it has been written and placed in a sealed envelope and will be opened in 1960, we know enough to enable us to conclude that the salvation of the world, in this extraordinary movement of history, has been placed by God in the Immaculate Heart of Mary.” (Cardinal Cerejeira, September 7, 1946, at the closing of the Marian Congress of Campinas, Brazil)
Canon Galamba: “When the bishop refused to open the letter, Lucy made him promise that it would definitely be opened and read to the world either at her death or in 1960, whichever would come first.” (La Verdad sobre el Secreto de Fatima, Fr. Joaquin Alonso, Spanish Edition, pp. 46-47)
Fr. Jongen: Fr. Jongen interrogated Sister Lucy on February 3-4, 1946: “You have already made know two parts of the Secret. When will the time arrive for the third part?” “I communicated the third part in a letter to the Bishop of Leiria,” she answered. “But it cannot be made known before 1960.” (Review Mediatrice et Reine, October 1946, pp. 110-112)
John Haffert: “At the bishop’s house (in Leiria), I sat at the table on his right, with the four Canons. During that first dinner, Canon Jose Galamba de Oliveira turned to me when the bishop had left the room momentarily and asked: “Why don’t you ask the bishop to open the Secret?” Endeavoring not to show my ignorance concerning Fatima—which at that time was almost complete—I simply looked at him without expression. He continued: "The bishop can open the Secret. He doesn’t have to wait until 1960.” (Dear Bishop! John Haffert, AMI 1981, pp. 3-4)
Cardinal Cerejeira: In February 1960 the Patriarch of Lisbon reported the directions which the Bishop of Leiria “has passed on to him” on the subject of the Third Secret: “Bishop da Silva enclosed (the envelope sealed by Lucy) in another envelope on which he indicated that the letter had to be opened in 1960 by himself, Bishop Jose Correia da Silva, if he was still alive, or if not, by the Cardinal Patriarch of Lisbon.” (Novidades, February 24, 1960, quoted by La Documentation catholique, June 19, 1960, col. 751)
Canon Barthas: during his conversations with Sister Lucy on October 17-18, 1946, he had the opportunity to question her on the Third Secret. He writes: “When will the third element of the Secret be revealed to us?” Already in 1946, to this question Lucy and the Bishop of Leiria answered me uniformly, without hesitation and without comment: “In 1960.” And when I pushed my audacity so far as to ask why it was necessary to wait until then, the only response I received from either one was: “Because the Blessed Virgin wishes it so.” (Barthas, Fatima, merveille du XXe siecle, p. 83. Fatima-editions, 1952)
Canon Galamba: “The third part of the Secret, written down by Sister Lucy, was sealed by the hands of His Grace the Bishop of Leiria and will be opened either after the seer’s death or at the latest in 1960 (ou apos a morte da vidente ou o mais tardar em 1960).” (Fatima, altar do mundo, Vol. II, p. 147)
The Armstrongs: On May14, 1953, Lucy received a visit from the Armstrongs, who were able to question her on the third Secret. In their account published in 1955, they confirmed that the third Secret “had to be opened and divulged in 1960.” (A. O. Armstrong, Fatima, pilgrimage to peace, The World’s Work, Kingswood, Surrey, 1955)
Cardinal Ottaviani: On May 17, 1955, Cardinal Ottaviani, Pro-Prefect of the Holy Office, came to the Carmel of Saint Teresa at Coimbra. He interrogated Lucy on the third Secret; and in his conference of 1967 recalled: “The message was not to be opened before 1960. I asked Sister Lucy, ‘Why this date?’ She answered, ‘Because then it will seem clearer (mais claro).” (La Documentation catholique, March 19, 1967, col. 542)
Cardinal Tisserant: On October 13, 1956, Cardinal Tisserant, Secretary of the Sacred Congregation for the Eastern Church, came as a papal legate to bless “Domus Pacis” at Fatima, the international headquarters of the Blue Army. During his homily he declared: “A part of this message must remain hidden until 1960; but a part has been made public in 1942 by the ecclesiastical authorities…” (quoted by G. Renault, Fatima, p. 225, Plon, 1957)
Father Schweigl: In November 1956, Father Schweigl titled a chapter of his little work, “Towards the Year 1960…” and he writes, “… The third part of the message must remain secret until 1960.” (Fatima e la conversione della Russia, p. 13, Rome, 1956)
Father Joaquin Alonso, official archivist of Fatima: “Other bishops also spoke—and with authority—about the year 1960 as the date indicated for opening the famous letter. Thus, when the then titular Bishop of Tiava, and Auxiliary Bishop of Lisbon asked Lucy when the Secret was to be opened, he always received the same answer: in 1960.” (La Verdad sobre el Secreto de Fatima, Fr. Joaquin Alonso, Spanish Edition, p. 46)
Father Joaquin Alonso: “When Don Jose, the first Bishop of Leiria and Sister Lucy agreed that the letter was to be opened in 1960, they obviously meant that its contents should be made public for the good of the Church and the world.” (ibid., p. 54)
Bishop Venancio: “I think that the letter will not be opened before 1960. Sister Lucy had asked that it should not be opened before her death, or not before 1960. We are now in 1959 and Sister Lucy is in good health.” (La Verdad sobre el Secreto de Fatima, Fr. Joaquin Alonso, Spanish Edition, p. 46)
Father Fuentes: Father Fuentes interviewed Sister Lucy on December 26, 1957 and told him: “Father, the Most Holy Virgin is very sad because no one has paid attention to Her Message, neither the good nor the bad. The good continue on their way but without giving any importance to Her Message… I am still not able to give any other details because it is still a secret. According to the will of the Most Holy Virgin, only the Holy Father and the Bishop of Fatima are permitted to know the Secret, but they have chosen not to know it so that they would not be influenced. This is the third part [third Secret] of the Message of Our Lady which will remain secret until 1960.” (La Verdad sobre el Secreto de Fatima, Fr. Joaquin Alonso, Spanish Edition, p. 103-104)
F. Stein: “The testimonies which have announced the revelation of the Secret for 1960 are of such weight and so numerous that in our opinion, even if the ecclesiastical authorities of Fatima [in 1959 the experts themselves were still unaware that Rome had taken the Secret from the Bishop of Leiria over two years previously] had not yet resolved to publish the Secret in 1960, they would now see themselves forced to do so by the circumstances.” (Mensagem de Fatima, July-August, 1959)
Father Dias Coelho: “If it were only a question of much ado about nothing, this would already be sufficient reason for dealing with the matter, at least with the purpose of quashing these rumors. But in reality testimony on the existence of the third part of the Secret of Fatima (the first and second part having been published already in 1942) is so weighty, coming from persons like Don Jose, Bishop of Leiria, his successor, Don Venancio, Cardinal Cerejeira, and Cardinal Tisserant, that it leaves no doubt. Also, we can use, as an unquestionable fact, this assertion of Dr. Galamba de Oliveira (in 1953) in Fatima, Altar do Mundo: ‘The third part of the Secret was sealed in the hands of His Grace the Bishop of Leiria, and will be opened either after the seer’s death or at the latest in 1960.’” (L’Homme Nouveau, No. 269, November 22, 1959)
Canon Barthas: "We know that there remains an element still reserved, of which it is useless to guess the content. Moreover, it will soon be known, since Lucy affirms that Our Lady wills that it can be published beginning in 1960." (The Whole Truth About Fatima, Vol. III, Brother Michael of the Holy Trinity, p. 500, footnote 33)
Father Joaquin Alonso, noting the effects of the disobedience of the hierarchy not to disclose the third Secret in 1960, as indicated by Our Lady of Fatima: “Simple folks waited up until May 13 [1960] when it was believed that the revelation [of the third Secret] would be made. Later, people felt a profound disenchantment and disappointment which did great harm to devotion to Our Lady of Fatima, both inside and outside Portugal.” (La Verdad sobre el Secreto de Fatima, Fr. Joaquin Alonso, Spanish Edition, p. 46)
All testimonies and statements reveal clearly and with certitude, that Heaven (not Sister Lucy!) but Heaven, desired and willed that Our Lady’s third Secret of Fatima was to be revealed to the whole world no later than 1960.
Sister Lucy writes the Third Secret
In 1941 Sister Lucy had written her third and fourth memoirs, writing the first two parts of the great Secret of Fatima. In her third memoir Sister Lucy has made it clear that "the secret is made up of three parts, two of which I am going to reveal." In her fourth memoir she restated the first two parts, leaving out once again "that part of the Secret which I am not permitted to reveal at present." Yet in the fourth memoir Sister Lucy did reveal one additional fragment of the Secret which had not appeared in the third memoir: Before the "O my Jesus", and after the end of the second part of the Secret, we find this curious sentence, obviously deprived of its context: "Em Portugal se conservera sempre o doguema da fe." - "In Portugal, the dogma of the Faith will always be preserved." It is interesting to note that the first two parts of the Secret do not mention the subject of the loss of dogma at all.
In September of 1944, Bishop da Silva suggested that Sister Lucy write down the text of the Third Secret, but she said that she could not take that responsibility upon herself without a formal, written order. Even when the order was given a month later by her bishop, she was unable to commit to writing this Third Secret. Sister Lucy, who had lived a life of obedience to her superiors, was not physically able to obey the command. She attributed this paralysis to a preternatural cause.[1] According to Frere Michel in his monumental book on the Third Secret:
"Having received the formal order to write down the Secret in mid-October, two months later Sister Lucy still had not done so. This shows how much the writing of this text made her tremble. Indeed as she took up her pen, she found her incapable of writing. In effect, as she asked Don Garcia for advice she added that she had wanted to obey several times, that she had sat down to write, without being able to. This mysterious impediment still existed on December 24, 1943, where she makes it clear in a letter to Don Garcia 'that this phenomenon was not due to natural causes.'
"...Undoubtedly we see it as Satan's final outburst against the messenger of the Immaculate One, guessing what a great weapon this prophecy would be, once it was set down in black and white, against his domination and his claim of being able to infiltrate the very heart of the Church...thus the seer's great trial was the measure of how great was the event about to be accomplished." [2]
Finally, on January 2, 1944, Sister Lucy was able to write down the text of the Secret in the chapel at the convent of Tuy. According to the account of Canon Martins dos Reis, she was able to proceed only "after Our Lady appeared to her to tell her to write the famous secret ... in conformity with what had been asked of her."[3]
On January 9, 1944, Sister Lucy wrote to Bishop da Silva to tell him that the Third Secret of Fatima had been written down and placed in a sealed envelope. On June 17, 1944, the envelope was delivered to Bishop da Silva, by Sister Lucy's bishop confessor in Tuy. The five month delay had resulted from Sister Lucy's unwillingness to entrust the envelope to anyone but a bishop. Bishop da Silva made the famous promise to Sister Lucy that the envelope would be unsealed and the Secret revealed not later than 1960.
Our Lady, Queen of the angels and saints, and our spiritual Mother, has our eternal salvation at heart more than anyone we will ever know. Let us pray that the real Third Secret will soon be revealed, for the glory of God and the salvation of souls!
"How I warned and warned that satan would enter into the highest realms of the hierarchy in Rome. The Third Secret, My child, is that satan would enter into My Son's Church."
- The Bayside Prophecies
Our Lady of the Roses, May 13, 1978
References:
[1] Frere Michel de la Sainte Trinite, The Third Secret, p. 45
[2] Ibid., p. 45.
[3] Ibid., p. 48.
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Sister Lucy: "We know moreover, that Sister Lucy confided in the 1970s, that 'the chastisement predicted by Our Lady in the Third Secret had already begun'." (Frère François de Marie des Anges, Fatima: Tragedy and Triumph, pp. 237-238; Brother Michael of the Holy Trinity, The Whole Truth About Fatima: The Third Secret, Vol. III, p. 640).
Pope John XXIII: We know that the genuine Third Secret makes reference to a date, as we can discern in Pope John XXIII's words upon reading the Third Secret in August 1959: "this does not concern the years of my pontificate." (Brother Michael of the Holy Trinity, The Whole Truth About Fatima: The Third Secret, Vol. III, p. 557, English edition; Fr. Joaquin Alonso, official archivist of Fatima, La Verite sur le Secret de Fatima, French edition, page 106). Whatever date was mentioned, Pope John XXIII did not believe he would live to see it.
Mother Godinho: Mother Godinho's letter to Pope Pius XII mentioned the year "1972." We know, from the Bayside message of October 3, 1991, that Jacinta of Fatima passed on to Mother Godinho the Third Secret. Mother Godinho in her letter to Pope Pius XII (2), however, altered the content of the Third Secret, included topics extraneous to it, and left out the essence of the Third Secret (that satan would enter the Church). Nonetheless, she preserved the real date that was in the Third Secret, 1972: "... to prepare for the year 1972, because the sins of impurity, vanity, and excessive luxury would bring great chastisements to the world, which would cause great suffering to the Holy Father. 'Poor Holy Father!' she would say." (Mother Godinho's letter to Pope Pius XII, April 25, 1954) (3)
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Excerpts from
Letter of Mother Godinho to his Holiness,
Pope Pius XII
(original letter is currently in Lisbon, Portugal)
I am the godmother of Jacinta Marto, the seer of Fatima, who made me privy to the following secret, which I have kept religiously for many years, but now as I feel death approaching, I wish to communicate it to Your Holiness. Under oath I guarantee that what I say expresses purely and simply what I heard from her, and which forms my secret. Here is the essential part. “Mother, tell the Holy Father that the world is troubled and Our Lady can no longer hold back the arm of Her beloved Son, Who is very offended by the sins committed in the world. If, however, the world decides to do penance, She would come to its aid again, but if not, chastisement would infallibly fall upon it, for its lack of obedience to the Holy Father.”
Jacinta then asked me to tell the Holy Father and His Excellency, the Bishop of Leiria, that the house I occupy at Fatima ought to be called, “the House of Our Lady of the Rosary of Fatima”, and that the sisters of this order, after their approval, were to take the name of “Claretian Sisters of Mother Mary da Costa,” and that they would keep united to the Vatican to prepare for the year 1972, because the sins of impurity, vanity, and excessive luxury would bring great chastisements to the world, which would cause great suffering to the Holy Father. “Poor Holy Father!” she would say.
I could hardly believe these things; but Jacinta insisted, saying: “Godmother, tell the Holy Father that Our Lady wishes this work to be the apple of the Holy Father’s eye, try therefore to talk to him about it”; and among other things she said: “Our Lady wants there to be at the Cova da Iria a house for Her, the Mother of God, and that the Sisters who go there imitate Her virtues, and expiate for the sins committed in other religious houses.” Among other things Our Lady told the seer: “In this house there will be rigorous silence, only what is absolutely necessary will be said, and nothing more; nothing will be done without permission of His Holiness, and the religious who live there under Our Lady’s roof will imitate the virtues of the Heavenly Mother; they will have no contact with the world and they will live a very retired life, and it will behoove them to pray particularly for the Holy Father, uniting all their penitential practices to the Vatican, for the intention of…”
I, a Sister of Saint Francis, Maria of the Purification, to whom the seer Jacinta revealed these things, understood nothing of these things, but it seems to me that she meant that wars would stop in the world only when men also finished.
At this moment I said to Jacinta that the Holy Father knew very well what he had to do and that Our Lord and Our Lady would inspire him so that it would be superfluous for me to tell him what the seer related to me. But she went on talking, and she said that the triumph of Our Lord still had to come, but beforehand there would be many tears, because in the world His Holy Will is not being accomplished. And she told me that she was distraught at not knowing how to express it better, but she wanted to try anyway: “There is a secret of Heaven and another of the earth, and the latter is frightening, it already seems like the end of the world and in this cataclysm everything will be isolated from Heaven, which will become white as snow.”
Our Lady said that we must pray much and perform many “mortifications of the senses” (give up many things) because this is very pleasing to Our Lord, that we must love Our Lord with all our heart and respect priests because they are the salt of the earth, and their duty is to show souls the way to Heaven. She also recommended often to the seer that I do nothing without the permission of the Holy Father, and the Most Reverend Bishop of Leiria, and that Jacinta ask me to tell Your Holiness, among other things, that Our Lady appeared to me here at the orphanage several times, and that she also appeared to the seer, before the latter went to the hospital of D. Estefania, and at this moment Jacinta felt such harmony that it seemed to her that she was already in the presence of God, and already enjoyed eternal glory for all eternity.
This long but loyal exposition which I have made, being concluded, the humblest of your servants casts herself at the feet as she kisses your ring, full of respect.
Mother Maria of the Purification Godinho
April 25, 1954
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Evidence for the REAL Third Secret:
Jacinta Marto (March 11, 1910 - February 20, 1920)
St. Theresa's revelation at Bayside, New York: Jacinta of Fatima told Mother Godinho the REAL Third Secret, but...
"Satan, Lucifer in human form, entered into Rome in the year 1972. He cut off the rule, the role of the Holy Father, Pope Paul VI. Lucifer has controlled Rome and continues this control now.
"And I tell you now, My children, unless you pray and make My counsel known to all of the ruling fathers of the Eternal City of Rome, My Son's Church, His House, will be forced into the catacombs. A great struggle lies ahead for mankind. The eventual outcome is for good of all, for this trial in My Son's Church will be a true proving ground for all the faithful. Many latter-day saints shall rise out of the tribulation."
- The Bayside Prophecies
Our Lady of the Roses, September 7, 1978
Feast of St. Theresa of the Child Jesus
October 3, 1991
Early on the afternoon of October 3, 1991 at 12:12 p.m., as Veronica lay on her living room couch resting from her debilitating health problems that have plagued her for years, St. Theresa the Little Flower suddenly appeared to her.
The popular French Carmelite nun, who was declared a saint by the Roman Catholic Church in 1925, and whose feast day is traditionally celebrated today, revealed only her face to Veronica. She was bathed in a brilliant light, with a youthful, contented, yet serious appearance about her.
"Honor the Salutation at all times: Glory be to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost.
"The peoples of the earth have not progressed satisfactorily in the plan for the salvation of their souls. Prayer, penance, atonement we ask of all. The time grows short.
"All honor and glory must be given to the Trinity. Hasten, harken, and listen, for I shall not repeat this call again."
ST. THERESA OF LISIEUX
St. Theresa then proceeded to reveal a great secret to Veronica.
Now as we are in the latter days, when many things hidden are to be revealed, St. Theresa has made known through Veronica an astonishing revelation: little Jacinta actually confided the famous Third Secret of Fatima to Mother Godinho, a pious lady who was caring for her during her final illness. Mother Godinho was instructed by Jacinta to pass a message on to a certain priest designated by Our Lady, but tragically failed in the mission entrusted to her for reasons disclosed by St. Theresa to Veronica. (Actually, Veronica is not permitted to release all that St. Theresa revealed to her, but the report below represents a significant portion.) (read Mother Godinho's letter to Pope Pius XII which relates part of the Third Secret as given by Jacinta)
Two nights later, restless and unable to sleep, Veronica was pondering the startling facts which St. Theresa had brought to light, when she was inspired to seek out Brother Michael of the Holy Trinity's monumental and authoritative work on Fatima, The Whole Truth About Fatima.
CANON FORMIGAO
Volume II contains a detailed account of the little seer's painful illness and her death. Much of the information that follows is taken from this source.
In Appendix II of Chapter IV is the text of a message given to Canon Manuel Formigao by Mother Godinho at Jacinta's request. Canon Formigao was Jacinta's confessor, a very holy priest, and he believed wholeheartedly in the apparitions.
Appendix III lists what the author calls an "apocryphal message," one which he and other Fatima experts believe may not be authentic. It is in the form of a letter sent by Mother Godinho to Pope Pius XII in 1954. The letter does exist, and was actually sent to the Holy Father, but Brother Michael in his commentary lists several reasons for doubting the truth of the message.
ST. THERESA SHEDS NEW LIGHT
The clarification given by St. Theresa sheds new light on both of these messages from Mother Godinho, and shows that instead of two separate messages, there was really only one message and it was to have been given in its entirety to Canon Formigao, who would then pass it on to the Holy Father.
Maria of the Purification Godinho was the directress and foundress—hence referred to as Mother Godinho—of the orphanage of Our Lady of Miracles in Lisbon, where Jacinta stayed for some time during her final illness prior to entering the hospital for surgery. Mother Godinho had gathered a community of women around her who lived as religious but without the habit and without official recognition.
MOTHER GODINHO'S DREAM
She had hoped to found an order of nuns, a dream she clung to with tenacity all her life, despite the fact that her bishop repeatedly refused to grant her the necessary authorization. Apparently, he felt that despite her obvious good intentions, she did not possess the qualities needed to carry out such an undertaking.
Shortly before her death, Jacinta had asked repeatedly that Canon Formigao be called to her bedside, explaining that Our Lady had appeared to her and given a message to be related to him. Unfortunately, the good priest was unable to come at once, and arrived a few days after her death.
Meanwhile, Jacinta, knowing she was to die, gave the message to Mother Godinho, asking her to relate it to the Canon.
Upon the arrival of Canon Formigao, Mother Godinho met with him and repeated to him the first part of little Jacinta's message. It concerned a chastisement predicted for Portugal, especially the city of Lisbon, in punishment for the sins and crimes committed in that country.
As Mother Godinho later testified, Jacinta explained that the prophecy of the Blessed Mother was conditional: "If there were souls who would do penance and make reparation for the offenses done to God, and works of reparation were instituted to make satisfaction for crimes, the chastisement would be prevented."
BURNING AMBITION
How these words must have rung in her ears, and fueled her burning ambition to found a religious order! There would be no problem with Mother Godinho in relaying the first part, as it fit neatly into her plans. However, the remaining part of the message would be a different story. She kept that part as her own secret, seeking all the while her bishop's approval.
Finally, in 1954, at the age of seventy-six, she wrote to the Holy Father, Pope Pius XII, daring to present her proposed order of Franciscan nuns as the express wish of the Blessed Virgin Mary, tailoring the remainder of the secret message to fit her dreams.
The first two paragraphs of her letter were devoted as an ardent appeal to the Holy Father for the authorization she so anxiously sought. When we omit all of the many references to herself and her proposed religious order, what remains—from what we have learned now—is a distorted message undoubtedly mingled with truths, but definitely devoid of the heart of the Third Secret.
A CRITICAL OMISSION
We know that the little seers of Fatima were subjected to all sorts of ridicule and disbelief, as well as endless questioning from the authorities. Mother Godinho realized this and knew to make public all of the very startling message Our Lady gave to Jacinta might make her the object of similar scrutiny, jeopardizing her goal of founding an order of nuns. Therefore, according to St. Theresa, she omitted the most crucial part of the message.
We all know that the famous Third Secret of Fatima was supposed to be publicly revealed in 1960, but to this day lies buried in the Vatican archives. Unknown until now is the fact that it was also buried in the ground in 1960 when Mother Godinho went to her grave!
Yes, according to the revelation of St. Theresa, the Third Secret was an integral part of the final message Our Lady gave to Jacinta for Canon Formigao. Knowing she would die soon, Jacinta revealed it to Mother Godinho to pass on to Canon Formigao.
Mother Godinho was only an intermediary; the message was not intended for her at all. However, grasping at a chance to further her own ambitions, she gave the good priest only the part concerning Portugal and kept the rest to herself.
THE ANTICHRIST
For Our Lady once more revealed to Jacinta, shortly before her death in February 1920, what is really the essence of the Third Secret of Fatima: that 666, satan, the forces of antichrist, would enter the highest realms of the hierarchy in Rome beginning in the year 1972!
Given human weakness and Mother Godinho's obsession, it would seem that this prediction of an event which would unlikely be fulfilled in her lifetime actually served to increase her delusion. Of course, she never did get her order.
Our Lady told Veronica that for this infidelity Mother Godinho suffered in purgatory for eight years, until the year 1968. (read Mother Godinho's letter to Pope Pius XII which relates part of the Third Secret as given by Jacinta)
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Our Lady of the Roses: Our Lady of the Roses message verifies that a specific date was mentioned in the Third Secret:
"I say this evening, as your God, that on that date, as promised at Fatima, satan entered My Church upon earth." (June 18, 1986 message)
Veronica Lueken, the seer of Bayside, confirmed that the date promised at Fatima and in the Third Secret was 1972.
"Satan, Lucifer in human form, entered into Rome in the year 1972." (September 7, 1978 message)
The miraculous 'Jacinta 1972' picture was given to remind the world of Jacinta's message to Mother Godinho and her message concerning the Pope: "I ask you again to pray for your Holy Father [Pope Paul VI] in Rome. He is very ill. He needs many prayers, for he is being crucified by his own. He is truly the little one in the message of Jacinta.” (Our Lady of the Roses message, June 1, 1978) (4)
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Evidence for the REAL Third Secret:
The History of the “Jacinta 1972” Miraculous Photograph...
"Satan, Lucifer in human form, entered into Rome in the year 1972. He cut off the rule, the role of the Holy Father, Pope Paul VI. Lucifer has controlled Rome and continues this control now.
"And I tell you now, My children, unless you pray and make My counsel known to all of the ruling fathers of the Eternal City of Rome, My Son's Church, His House, will be forced into the catacombs. A great struggle lies ahead for mankind. The eventual outcome is for good of all, for this trial in My Son's Church will be a true proving ground for all the faithful. Many latter-day saints shall rise out of the tribulation."
- The Bayside Prophecies
Our Lady of the Roses, September 7, 1978
Veronica - Oh! Now by Our Lady there’s a great ... oh, there’s a great light. And there ... oh, oh, it’s Jacinta! I know her ... now, and she’s pointing over to the trees. And she’s holding up one finger. She says:
Jacinta - "All has come true as I gave to you from Our Lady, but Our Father still plans to bring you back. Everyone has so much in many things upon your earth, but yet they all look so unhappy. They are rich, and yet they are so poor.
"I have come to tell you of the poor Holy Father. I cried much for him. We love him, but man will destroy him now.
"Many little children are being destroyed on your earth. Our Father sends the angels to you, but you send them back to Us. It is only because Satan does not want a large army upon earth of Our Father’s children. Those that will be left will bring much grief and misery to the world, for they will be taken by Satan and used.
"I gave you the picture. I wrote on your picture. I did not know how to write much on earth, but I wrote. Our Father showed me how to write. Won’t you give everyone my picture? I want them to remember what I tried to tell them."
- The Bayside Prophecies
February 1, 1973
Note: Jacinta of Fatima is a key to unlocking the contents of the REAL Third Secret of Fatima. As mentioned by several Fatima scholars, and Pope John XXIII, the authentic Third Secret of Fatima contains a specific date. We know from Our Lady of the Roses message that the year "1972" was mentioned in the REAL Third Secret, and any version of the Third Secret is not authentic, or at least incomplete, that does not contain this essential element. Furthermore, Jacinta of Fatima had a vision of the Pope of the Third Secret, mentioned by Our Lady of Fatima. The Pope Jacinta saw in this vision was Pope Paul VI.
“Jacinta 1972” photograph
Veronica - The first note I have come across brings back a great deal of happy memories. Now this one, this page, is dated January 23, 1971.
When I lived in Bayside, there was a young girl living in the apartment to the right of me upstairs, named Carol M. Carol was a young girl with three children to support, living by herself, the second apartment over, in our garden complex.
Now Heaven works in most mysterious ways. Heaven does seem to choose people who are not what the average individual would expect to look for or be like for their mission. Carol M. was one of the first—what you would say—writers for Heaven, in the year 1971. You must understand that from ‘68 on, when Saint Theresa first appeared to me in 1968, Heaven was conducting locutions with me and my Raymond, and one more individual, Carol M. during this time.
Now Carol and I were alone at the time, I believe. Heaven, through a—“locution’’ is the word they use—would speak to me, and Carol would write it down.
And also present at times was Robert F., the young man who received the miraculous photograph of “Jacinta 1972”. Robert F. was one of our early workers, and he lived in Bayside, the St. Robert Bellarmine Parish.
I have often written to the Chancery and the Reverend Fathers of St. Robert’s to go and speak with Robert F. and ask him how his wonderful photograph was taken; and they would understand that it was not a fraud, or could (not) be repeated, as was written in The Long Island Press.
But there was a Bill Wuest, a photographer for the Long Island Press, that said that he could duplicate the “Jacinta 1972” picture. Well, factually he couldn’t. I had asked the reporter, a Mr. Gershowitz, I believe his name was, to go and speak with Robert F. Robert F. must have told him exactly how miraculously he had received this picture “Jacinta 1972’’ from out of nowhere, so to say. But instead of accepting the truth, when he took it back, perhaps to his editors of the Press and the photographer, a Bill Wuest, they proceeded to make it look very foolish and reprinted a picture of Bill Wuest sitting on a stool, as I remember correctly. And written across the picture was “Bill Wuest ‘72,” or something like that, a mockery.
Whereas, when I called the reporter and asked for a copy of his photograph, he couldn’t give me one. And he hemmed and hawed about it. I told him, l said, “You couldn’t reproduce that, because it was only produced by Heaven. And it was electrostatically written; you can see that. There was depth and color that was not brought out in the Long Island Press. There was no similarity at all, except in black and white—whatever you did by writing ‘Bill Wuest.’’’
To a public—a public could be deluded to say they look alike; but let us see the originals, which they never have shown. They were the ones that did the trickery in the picture, because the “Jacinta 1972” photograph was taken in a manner that was absolutely supernatural. And I think it’s time that I place this on tape for everyone to know.
There were witnesses to the taking of that picture. One was Clara Kreitmeyer, and several of the other ladies by the statue.
That evening in 1970 or ‘71, Robert F. was passing by the Shrine grounds at Bayside, and there were only several ladies there kneeling, praying the Rosary by the original statue on the grounds next to the present gym, which was the old Church. (The new one is down the block.) And Clara saw Robert F. and asked if he would take a picture of them praying the Rosary there. They would like to have a memento of themselves and the other ladies on the grounds, the sacred grounds of Our Lady.
Robert wanted to please them, so he got his camera he was carrying at the time. (I’m not sure whether he had a camera with him, or whether he went back to his car and got it, because Robert F. used to have a small little Corvette. You know, one of those small cars. I rode one time in it with him; he took me somewhere.) And he said he would take this photograph.
When he took the photograph, the way he would explain it to you, as he has explained it to Brother Frost—and many other people, I would assume—is: this is exactly what happened. He had a Polaroid camera, the kind where you had to pull out the picture. (You know, the old-fashioned ones, now, not like the SX-70’s, but the kind that you had to pull out the picture, wait sixty seconds or so, and then pull the cover off.) And so he had pulled out his picture and set the timer for sixty seconds, like you do (that little round thing on the end of the camera). And all of sudden, as he held the picture out, he felt—he heard a snap, a crack, and he felt like his fingers that were holding the picture had been hit by an electrical current.
Well, it happened so suddenly and so fast that he thought at first that perhaps, oh, what I’m hearing is the ticking of the sixty seconds off on the camera (you know, as the little knob turned off the sixty seconds until the picture was finished). But he felt electricity, he said, go through his fingers. Yet there was no electrical storm or anything taking place. Well, after he waited he tore off the cover of the picture.
Oh, but Clara Kreitmeyer at that time was waiting anxiously to receive the picture that he had taken. But whatever happened, she said, Robert looked at the picture and he turned pale as a ghost, dropped the picture, and ran. And I believe, if I could go see Clara to hear the whole story of what happened again, that he dropped the camera also, and ran. But then, as he started to leave (it shocked him so, whatever was on that picture) he changed his mind, came back, picked up the picture and the camera, and ran.
Well, what happened is, that picture—and Clara Kreitmeyer will testify to this—that picture had writing on it, writing “Jacinta 1972.’’ Now he was standing on the sidewalk to take this picture of the ladies praying the Rosary, facing the statue. So you can imagine (and I can, too, even ten years later) the shock it was to him to take a picture of Our Lady’s statue and five ladies, and finding writing come out on the picture, something that is almost an impossibility in our human nature. And it said, J-A-C-I-N-T- A, and underneath, 1-9-7-2.
Well, I received in the mail from Robert F. about two days later just enough time to drop it—he must have dropped that picture in the mail. He addressed it to me immediately at my home, and I received the picture in the mail. And at that time, I believe I could call him on the telephone (though his phone is unlisted in 1980; I guess others have been calling about his picture) and he explained how he got it. Of course, I already knew this at the time, because Clara Kreitmeyer was with us still in the work. She had already explained what had happened.
Fatima and the Third Secret
And then I started to ask around about Jacinta of Fatima, and I soon found out why that picture was given. And throughout the years we have held that picture and have tried to share it with the world.
And, of course, in order to know the full extent of that photograph miraculous, you must also know about Fatima. One of Our Lady’s appearances in the world was at Fatima, in Portugal, in which She also gave warnings—warnings that all came true—and one warning that was kept hidden. And the fact that it was kept hidden has brought about so much chaos in the world and the Church today. It should never have remained hidden, Our Lady said. However, that is another story.
For all who are familiar with Fatima and other appearances of Our Lady such as at La Salette, that I have recently learned of—would you kindly, for your own enlightenment, read of Our Lady’s appearances at Fatima and La Salette and you will understand why, also, Our Lady came to Bayside.
"My child, they converse of the secret that I gave at Fatima. It is a simple explanation. It could not be fully revealed because of the drastic nature of My message. How I warned and warned that satan would enter into the highest realms of the hierarchy in Rome. The Third Secret, My child, is that satan would enter into My Son's Church."
- The Bayside PropheciesOur Lady of the Roses, May 13, 1978
"My children, long ago I warned you from Fatima, I warned you through many voice-boxes throughout your world that the time will come when you will embark upon a stormy sea, and it shall be bishop against bishop and cardinal against cardinal, and satan shall set himself in your midst."
- The Bayside Prophecies
Our Lady of the Roses, November 20, 1976
"I gave Lucy the Revelation as a temporary secret—as I revealed [the Third Secret] to you on two occasions. Make a concerted effort to bring its entirety to Our children on earth. The hierarchy have not listened to My counsel—thirty-two years lost in indecision and fear of exposure. The Faith is shattered for many."
- The Bayside Prophecies
Our Lady of the Roses, April 29, 1992
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Cardinal Ottaviani: Another clue concerning a date within the Third Secret may be available to us from the controversy surrounding the 'Neues Europa' version of the third secret. On October 1, 1963, Louis Emrich published what was reported to be an excerpt of the “Third Secret” in the German review 'Neues Europa.' Louis Emrich wrote on November 1, 1963: “The most important part, the quintessence of the revelations of the Mother of God was unavailable to us. In this case it concerns words of the Holy Virgin predicting events which will take place at Rome and which will happen to the Vatican and the papacy at the dawn of day J, when humanity will be delivered to the divine chastisement."
Fatima expert Father Messias Dias was hesitant to totally reject the 'Neues Europa' version of the third secret because he was assured by Cardinal Ottaviani, who personally read the REAL Third Secret, that "fundamentally it corresponds to the truth." (5)
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Two key documents cast aside by many Fatima experts, but affirmed by Our Lady of the Roses message...
"My children, long ago I warned you from Fatima, I warned you through many voice-boxes throughout your world that the time will come when you will embark upon a stormy sea, and it shall be bishop against bishop and cardinal against cardinal, and satan shall set himself in your midst."
- The Bayside Prophecies
Our Lady of the Roses, November 20, 1976
We are greatly disappointed by several Fatima experts who have cast aside two key historical documents directly related to the REAL Third Secret of Fatima. Without the guidance of Our Lady of the Roses message, these Fatima experts have cast aside crucial information that would point to the content of the authentic Third Secret, and have started promoting erroneous personal conjecture.
Two great errors of several Fatima experts include <1> their complete rejection of the Neues Europa “Third Secret” released in 1963, and <2> their rejection of the letter of Mother Godinho to Pope Pius XII. We consider it our obligation to draw our readers' attention to these two facts, and why they are so important.
Jesus tells us, "Man's judgment can always err, especially when he discounts the knowledge of the supernatural." (September 14, 1985) Some Fatima experts have rejected the Neues Europa Third Secret and Mother Godinho's letter because of extraneous material within these two documents. They have made an error in judgment, called the fallacy of exclusion (picking and choosing the evidence for one's case, and neglecting the evidence against it). They have made a judgment without sufficient information, and have fallen into error.
With insights from Our Lady of the Roses message, we have arrived at different conclusions concerning these two documents.
1> FACT: Cardinal Ottaviani affirmed that the Neues Europa Third Secret fundamentally "corresponds to the truth".
On October 1, 1963, Louis Emrich published what was reported to be an excerpt of the “Third Secret” in the German review Neues Europa. Many Fatima experts have rejected this Neues Europa “Third Secret” as false, as they consider the text too long. This is known as the logical fallacy of exclusion, when an erroneous conclusion is made by going beyond what the available facts merit. If it is true that the real Third Secret is approximately 26 lines in length, then the Neues Europa “Third Secret” would be too long. But that does not bar the possibility that within the Neues Europa “Third Secret” are lines from the REAL Third Secret, and that does not bar the possibility that extraneous material was added to the Neues Europa “Third Secret", thus explaining the excessive length. These Fatima experts have thrown out the baby with the bath water, so to speak. And we know this with the help of Our Lady of the Roses message.
Two interesting facts surround the publication of the Neues Europa “Third Secret.” The first is a statement made by Louis Emrich on November 1, 1963:
“The most important part, the quintessence of the revelations of the Mother of God was unavailable to us. In this case it concerns words of the Holy Virgin predicting events which will take place at Rome and which will happen to the Vatican and the papacy at the dawn of day J, when humanity will be delivered to the divine chastisement. The passage related to it, and which forms the basis and conclusion of the third prediction of Fatima, was integrally detached from it and remains a state secret of the Vatican, until a new order is given.”
Most Fatima experts haven’t a clue what to make of this “Day J” reference, and so they say nothing. Keep in mind for the moment that within the Vatican’s June 26, 2000 document, no date was given. We will come back to this point later.
Cardinal Ottaviani
The second interesting fact concerning the Neues Europa “Third Secret” is that in 1971, the Fatima expert Father Messias Dias Coelho said that he was hesitant to reject the Neues Europa “Third Secret” as false, for two reasons:
“The affirmation recently made to me by an eminent Cardinal, whose name we will keep secret for the moment. According to him, the text in question contains some exaggerations (which we had already noted in 1964), but fundamentally it corresponds to the truth. 2. The fact that the central nucleus of the text in question, as moreover everybody recognizes, is the prediction of a future climate of division within the Church, a prophecy which was unbelievable eight years ago (the publication of Neues Europa dates from 1963), but is a reality today!” (Mensagem de Fatima, No. 86, September-October, 1971)
The “eminent Cardinal” was Cardinal Ottaviani, who gave the endorsement of the article in the German publication Neues Europa in 1963. According to Father Messias Dias Coelho, Cardinal Ottaviani said that the Neues Europa Third Secret fundamentally “corresponds to the truth.” Regarding to the text printed by Neues Europa, Cardinal Ottaviani reportedly exclaimed, “Publish 10,000 copies! Publish 20,000 copies! Publish 30,000 copies!” (personal testimony of Msgr. Corrado Balducci. This fact is also attested to by Marco Tosatti in his book Il Secreto Non Svelato, (The Secret Not Revealed), Edizioni Piemme Spa, Casale Monferrato, Italy, May 2002, p. 86). Cardinal Ottaviani read the REAL Third Secret, as he himself affirmed on February 11, 1967, during a press conference at the time of a meeting of the Pontifical Marian Academy in Rome:
“I, who have had the grace and the gift to read the text of the Secret—although I too am held to secrecy because I am bound by the Secret…” (The Whole Truth About Fatima, Vol. III, Brother Michel of the Holy Trinity, p. 727).
Cardinal Ottaviani read the REAL Third Secret, so his statements bear extreme weight.
On October 16, 1978, the newspaper L’Osservatore della Domenica ran an article by a Vatican prelate, Msgr. Corrado Balducci, a clerk in the Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples. He wrote that a text reportedly containing the Third Secret “was reprinted by Neues Europa, which published it at Stuttgart on October 15, 1963.” Msgr. Balducci then went on to quote from the Neues Europa Third Secret at length (see The Whole Truth of Fatima, Vol. III, Brother Michael of the Holy Trinity, pp. 657-659). Why would a Vatican prelate give such great credence to the Neues Europa Third Secret, unless he knew that at least part of this Neues Europa Third Secret was genuine?
We will now reprint a pertinent part of the Neues Europa “Third Secret”, and compare it to Our Lady of the Roses message. The bolded part of the text below are lines that we believe are authentic lines from the REAL Third Secret of Fatima. Bracketed numbers represent how many times similar lines are repeated in Our Lady of the Roses message:
“Humanity has not developed as God desired. Mankind has been sacrilegious and has trampled underfoot the gifts of God.
“No longer does order reign anywhere. Even in the highest places Satan reigns and directs the course of events. Satan will succeed in infiltrating into the highest positions in the Church [32+]. Satan will succeed in sowing confusion in the minds of scientists who will design weapons that can destroy great portions of mankind in a few minutes. Satan will gain hold of heads of nations and will cause these destructive weapons to be mass-produced.
“If mankind will not oppose these evils, I will be obliged to let fall My Son's arm. If the chief rulers of the world and of the Church will not actively oppose these evils, I will ask God My Father to visit His Justice upon mankind. Then will God punish mankind even more severely and harshly than He did at the time of the great Deluge. The great and powerful will perish along with the lowly and weak.
“A time of very severe trial is also coming for the Church. Cardinals will oppose Cardinals and Bishops will oppose Bishops. Satan will enter into their very midst [24+]. In Rome also, there will occur great changes. What is rotten will fall, and what falls must not be retained [73]. The Church will be obscured, and all the world will be thrown into great confusion....
“Fire and smoke will fall from heaven, and the waters of the ocean will turn to steam, throwing their foam to the very sky. Whatever is standing will be overturned. Millions of people will die. Those surviving will envy the dead [19]. Distress, misery and desolation will be found the world over.
“The time is drawing near, and the abyss is ever deepening. There will be no escape: the good will die with the wicked [8], the great with the lowly, the princes of the Church with the faithful, the rulers of the nations with their people. Death will reign everywhere, raised to triumph by erring men, the helpers of Satan who will be the masters of the earth. These evils will come at a time when no one expects it: nevertheless it must come as punishment and revenge in accordance with God's plan.
“The age of ages is coming, the end of all ends if mankind will not repent and be converted, and if this conversion does not come from rulers of the world and of the Church. Woe and greater woe to mankind if conversion does not occur.”
Our Lady of the Roses told Veronica on April 29, 1992:
"I gave Lucy the Revelation as a temporary secret—as I revealed [the Third Secret] to you on two occasions. Make a concerted effort to bring its entirety to Our children on earth. The hierarchy have not listened to My counsel—thirty-two years lost in indecision and fear of exposure. The Faith is shattered for many."
From this message, Our Lady may be implying by the words “its entirety” that some of the Third Secret has already been revealed, and this we believe to be true in the Neues Europa “Third Secret.”
2> FACT: Mother Godinho mentions the year 1972 in her letter to Pope Pius XII concerning Jacinta and the REAL Third Secret.
Mother Godhinho cared for Jacinta of Fatima, one of the three children, in her final illness. In 1954, Mother Godinho wrote a letter to Pope Pius XII in which she specifically mentions the year 1972. Unfortunately, most Fatima experts reject this letter as well. True, there are many inconsistencies in the letter, but this does not bar the possibility that Mother Godinho was told the REAL Third Secret. As Our Lady of the Roses message tells us, Mother Godinho was told the Third Secret by Jacinta, but did not faithfully transmit it, as she had been instructed. The year “1972” mentioned in Mother Godinho’s letter is one of the few authentic traces of the REAL Third Secret that Mother Godinho actually put in her letter to Pope Pius XII. Mother Godinho's letter to Pope Pius XII truly exists and is currently in Lisbon, Portugal.
This letter by Mother Godinho (and the explanation of it by Our Lady of the Roses) provides a missing link to the Third Secret puzzle. As was indicated by Louis Emrich concerning the Neues Europa version of the Third Secret:
“The most important part, the quintessence of the revelations of the Mother of God was unavailable to us. In this case it concerns words of the Holy Virgin predicting events which will take place at Rome and which will happen to the Vatican and the papacy at the dawn of day J, when humanity will be delivered to the divine chastisement.”
This “day J” was the year 1972, when satan began (and still continues) his massive onslaught against the Church and the papacy. The Pope of 1972 was Pope Paul VI, the Pope of Jacinta’s visions (Read more…). As Our Lady of the Roses has told us:
"Satan, Lucifer in human form, entered into Rome in the year 1972. He cut off the rule, the role of the Holy Father, Pope Paul VI. Lucifer has controlled Rome and continues this control now.
"And I tell you now, My children, unless you pray and make My counsel known to all of the ruling fathers of the Eternal City of Rome, My Son's Church, His House, will be forced into the catacombs. A great struggle lies ahead for mankind. The eventual outcome is for good of all, for this trial in My Son's Church will be a true proving ground for all the faithful. Many latter-day saints shall rise out of the tribulation."
- The Bayside Prophecies
Our Lady of the Roses, September 7, 1978
The deceptions that have been perpetrated in the Vatican since 1972 are almost beyond belief: the “deception of the century”, the murder of Pope John Paul I, a cardinal consorting with the devil that was within 5 votes of becoming elected Pope, and the latest deception, the June 26, 2000 forgery.
The Fatima experts need to wake up, stop going around in circles as they are now doing, and heed the counsel of Our Lady of the Roses. Only She will be able to lead us out of this thicket of deception surrounding the REAL Third Secret of Fatima.
"My child, they converse of the secret that I gave at Fatima. It is a simple explanation. It could not be fully revealed because of the drastic nature of My message. How I warned and warned that satan would enter into the highest realms of the hierarchy in Rome. The Third Secret, My child, is that satan would enter into My Son's Church."
- The Bayside Prophecies
Our Lady of the Roses, May 13, 1978
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Fr. Schweigl: Fr. Schweigl was entrusted by Pope Pius XII with a mission to discover more about the Third Secret, and journeyed to Coimbra, Portugal to interrogate Sister Lucy on September 2, 1952. After questioning Sister Lucy on the Third Secret, on his return to the 'Russicum', Father Schweigl confided to one of his relatives, Father Cyrille Karel Kozina: "I cannot reveal anything about what I have learned at Fatima about the Third Secret, but I can say that it has two parts: the one concerns the Pope. The other, logically—although I should say nothing—should be the continuation of the words: 'In Portugal, the dogma of the Faith will always be preserved.'" ...
Concerning the part which concerns the Pope, [Father Kozina] had asked: "The present Pope, or rather the next one?" To that question, Father Schweigl did not reply. (Brother Michael of the Holy Trinity, The Whole Truth About Fatima: The Third Secret, Vol. III, p. 710).
Father Alonso verified that Fr. Schweigl did interview Sister Lucy: "On September 2, 1952, authorized by the Holy Office as he himself declared, Father Schweigl did an interrogation of Lucy." (Father Joaquin Alonso, Historia da Literatura sobre Fatima, p. 60).
"My child, they converse of the secret that I gave at Fatima. It is a simple explanation. It could not be fully revealed because of the drastic nature of My message. How I warned and warned that satan would enter into the highest realms of the hierarchy in Rome. The Third Secret, My child, is that satan would enter into My Son's Church."
- The Bayside Prophecies
Our Lady of the Roses, May 13, 1978
"This evening I speak to you, My child Veronica, for you to tell the world that to hide a fact is often destructive. And this fact will be made known now, with or without Lucy, or others, who cannot speak out because they are under obedience to their elders. You will repeat this, My child, though it may shock you.
"I say this evening, as your God, that on that date, as promised at Fatima, satan entered My Church upon earth. He brought with him his agents—and satan himself, the deceiver of all mankind, sat in on Vatican II and maneuvered all the outsiders to come in and distort My doctrines and distort the truth.
"At Fatima, My Mother tried to warn of this coming event, but who cared to listen? Who was interested in listening?...
"Therefore, I must make it known at this time to you. If you are perceiving and interested in My Church upon earth, I do not have to explain Myself too fully; for you will already know of the chaos that satan has wrought when he entered My Church. And why did he enter, you say? This I want it made known, My child, and you will not be affrighted as you are now. And you will speak out for Me and My Mother and the Eternal Father in the Holy Spirit; you will speak out and say that satan is in the Church, My Church upon earth. He knows his time is growing short."
- The Bayside Prophecies
Jesus, June 18, 1986
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