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4-2. Synod Official Refuses to Answer Whether Members Must Follow Church Teaching in Discussions...

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These Last Days News - October 11, 2023

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4-2. Synod Official Refuses to Answer Whether Members Must Follow Church Teaching in Discussions...

 

"My children, in the past My Church, My people have gone through crucibles of suffering, but I say unto you: My House, My Church upon earth is passing through a trial far greater than any in past history. Lucifer and his agents now are working with diligence and are most successful at this moment in their striving to topple the Seat of Peter and to place in Rome a pope that is the antipope of history."

- The Bayside Prophecies

Jesus, June 18, 1978

 

Worse to Come

"And if you think you have seen carnage now already in the Church, the worst is yet to come, unless you follow the rules given by My Mother many years ago, of prayer, atonement, and sacrifice. By your example you may be able to save others. For soon there will come upon you the great Chastisement. It comes in two parts, My child and My children: the Third World War, and also the Ball of Redemption. These can no longer be delayed. For the good seem to go about their way, perhaps pridefully. We do not seek to accuse or place a stigma on any, but some may pridefully sit back and let others go forth and make these sacrifices and prayers and penance. Because they have become smug, or because they have not the grace to understand that once you receive this grace much is expected of you. You must even work harder to save your brothers and sisters."

- The Bayside Prophecies

Jesus, June 18, 1986

 

The above Messages from Our Lord were given to Veronica Lueken at Bayside, New York.

 

 

LifeSiteNews.com reported on Ocotber 11, 2023:

 

by Michael Haynes

 

Leading officials behind the Synod on Synodality have refused to confirm that participants must commit to upholding Catholic teaching during the event’s discussions.

 

Speaking to journalists on October 11, Dr. Paolo Ruffini, prefect of the Vatican’s Dicastery for Communication, and Quebec’s Cardinal Gérald Lacroix provided an update on the latest events of the Synod on Synodality, all while maintaining the Vatican’s peculiar policy of silence regarding the event.

 

LifeSite questioned the pair about the role of synod members in upholding Catholic teaching, a question that was in part prompted by an intervention on Monday by the relator general of the synod, Cardinal Jean-Claude Hollerich, who attested that “in deep communion with His Father through the Holy Spirit, Jesus extended this communion to all the sinners. Are we ready to do the same?”

 

 

In particular, LifeSite asked whether, given how the Synod process has had listening and dialogue with Catholic and non-Catholics from the very beginning, there was some form of commitment that the Synod members had to make at the start of the process to adhere to Catholic teaching during their discussions.

 

Cardinal Lacroix – a member of the general secretariat of the Synod of Bishops since 2018, the Vatican body that fellow member Cardinal Joseph Tobin stated had been organizing the event since 2018 – refused to answer the question clearly.

 

Instead, he reiterated oft-repeated talking points regarding the synod being a way “to learn to journey together and to listen, to discern together.”

 

Lacroix stated:

 

The object of the synod, as you know, is not to address doctrinal aspects but to look at our attitudes and way of discerning, to learn to journey together, and once we go home we can face all these issues.

 

There have been synods on so many different themes. This is on journeying together, so even though we speak about our own experiences, in fact it is not a matter of addressing specific topics – not because they are not important, of course there are themes that are vey important and very topical – but what we want to do in this synod is to learn to journey together and to listen, to discern together.

 

And the Holy Father has thought it fit to have this synod last not just a few months, but from 2021 – 2024. So next year we are going to make a comeback, and between the two general assemblies we are going to try and make sure that this way of living the Church may become rooted in our way of being.

 

 

Continuing his statement, Lacroix argued that the Pope’s extension of the synod would enable the Church “to face the great issues having at our disposal more tools, so to speak.”

 

“Well of course we could exchange ideas, but not just our ideas are important, not just those of others are important,” he added.

 

What is important is for these ideas to make the object of common discernment – even though we are speaking about very concrete realities – the exercise we do, the conversation in the spirit, the praying. all this prepares us so we mustn’t expect changes at doctrinal level. This is not a doctrinal synod.

 

Lacroix next appeared to slightly undermine his previous arguments, however, stating that “of course there will be suggestions that will be proposed to the Holy Father, and he will discern how to continue.”

 

Ruffini did not answer the question, saying that he could add nothing to Lacroix’s response.

 

Since its very inception, the Synod on Synodality has been marked by a process of opening up the discussions to non-Catholics, as well as those who might identify as Catholic but no longer practice the faith.

 

Pope Francis’ preparatory document and accompanying vademecum, issued in September 2021, stated that the synodal process of “listening” must include “Catholics who rarely or never practice their faith, etc.”

 

The documents demand that the “act of discerning” entails listening to “people who have left the practice of the faith, people of other faith traditions, people of no religious belief, etc.” [sic]

 

No one – no matter their religious affiliation – should be excluded from sharing their perspective and experiences, insofar as they want to help the Church on her synodal journey of seeking what is good and true,” read the text. [Emphasis original]

 

There are currently ecumenical non-voting participants of the synod daily attending the proceedings at the Vatican, since as Ruffini and numerous synod officials have repeatedly stated, ecumenism is “essential” for synodality.

 

 

 

 

These Last Days News - October 12 2023

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Kenyan Bishop Condemns Homosexual Unions after Francis Promotes Same-Sex ‘Blessings’...

 

 

WRATH OF THE FATHER

"Much tribulation lies ahead, but these trials have been brought upon you by man. As it was in the days of Noe, so it is in your day that man is prideful and arrogant, seeking to place scientific knowledge above the Father. Rationalization for sin, so that sin now is a way of life! Souls in darkness, homes in darkness, and churches in darkness--whatever will become of you? You ask for the wrath of the Father upon you!”

- The Bayside Prophecies

St. Paul, March 24, 1974

 

PASTORS HELD RESPONSIBLE

"We hold the pastors of My Son's House, We hold them as being responsible for the fall of the children. Be ye warned now, My children, that woe to the man who has this responsibility upon his conscience and his soul. Scandals have been brought into the lives of your children. Perversion, homosexuality, immorality, perverted sex, My children-where shall you stop but at the abyss!"

- The Bayside Prophecies

Our Lady of the Roses, December 7, 1977

 

"Are you so blind that you do not recognize the acceleration of sin among you? Murders abound, thievery, all manner of carnage, destruction of young souls, abortion, homosexuality, condemned from the beginning of time by the Eternal Father. Yet sin has become a way of life. Sin is condoned now, even unto the highest judge of your land and your lands throughout the world. As you have sown so shall you reap. Sin is death, not only of the spirit, but of the body. Wars are a punishment for man's sin, his greed, his avarice."

- The Bayside Prophecies

Our Lady of the Roses, August 14, 1981

 

The above Messages from Our Lady were given to Veronica Lueken at Bayside, New York.

 

 

LifeSiteNews.com reported on October 11, 2023:

 

by Andreas Wailzer

 

A bishop from Kenya has spoken out against same-sex relations in response to Pope Francis’ suggestion that priests may decide to “bless” homosexual couples.

 

During his homily at the ordination Mass of Consolata Missionaries in Nairobi on October 6, Bishop Hieronymus Joya said “The issue that very many people are propagating today is that men should marry men, that women should marry women and they are asking the Church to validate it.”

 

“Dear brothers and sisters, the stand of the Catholic Church and your shepherds is this is a no-go zone,” Joya said, according to a report by the Catholic Information Service for Africa (CISA).

 

“It is something incomprehensible that you and I were born in a family and some people with perverse ideologies want us to do and live contrary to what God gifted us, which is the sacredness of life through our parents and which is the source of all vocations in our religious and secular society,” the bishop continued.

 

Joya, who is the bishop of the Diocese of Maralal, asked the newly ordained priests and deacons to “nurture the family; appreciate the vocation of marriage,” and “to encourage young people to see the value of choosing a vocation, either of marriage or consecrated life.”

 

“And I think that is the will of God when he created man and woman and that is a challenge that we are currently facing that I appeal to you dear brothers to be ordained to take note and be vigilant against this pervasive ideology,” the African bishop said in his sermon.

 

According to CISA, Joya’s statements came in response to Pope Francis effectively authorizing clergy to decide for themselves whether to “bless” homosexual unions and the Synod on Synodality’s pro-LGBT agenda.

 

The promotion of “blessings” for homosexual unions “alongside the ordination of women and the challenge of ideologies risks altering the tradition of the Catholic Church according to Bishop Joya,” the outlet reported.

 

Responding to a dubia question submitted by five cardinals, as to whether or not the Church can ever accept as a “possible good” objectively sinful situations, including same-sex unions, Pope Francis stated that “pastoral prudence must adequately discern whether there are forms of blessing, requested by one or more persons, that do not transmit a mistaken conception of marriage.”

 

 

 

"Man shall not condone evil or rationalize sin. Homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of God and man! The Creator condemns those who do not repent of this sin."

- The Bayside Prophecies

Our Lady of the Roses, August 5, 1977

 

"Are you so blind that you do not recognize the acceleration of sin among you? Murders abound, thievery, all manner of carnage, destruction of young souls, abortion, homosexuality, condemned from the beginning of time by the Eternal Father. Yet sin has become a way of life. Sin is condoned now, even unto the highest judge of your land and your lands throughout the world. As you have sown so shall you reap. Sin is death, not only of the spirit, but of the body. Wars are a punishment for man's sin, his greed, his avarice."

- The Bayside Prophecies

Our Lady of the Roses, August 14, 1981

 

 

 

 

These Last Days News - October 12, 2023

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Why Is The Synod On Synodality Pushing To ‘Welcome’ Those In ‘Polygamous’ Relationships?

 

PRAY FOR YOUR BISHOPS

"You will continue, My children, to pray for your bishops. It is through misdirection and loss of grace, because of too few prayers, that they now have set themselves into the darkness.

"A Church in darkness wears a band of death about it. Remember that, My pastors. A Church in darkness shall close its doors! But My Church shall not be extinct or destroyed, for the church of man cannot transcend the spirit."

- The Bayside Prophecies

Jesus, April 17, 1976

 

"The Eternal Father is most merciful, and He waits with patience for your penance and your atonement. The way has been given to you. You will stay and remain true, faithful and true! You will not go about seeking novelty and innovations upon My Church! A Church in darkness wears a band of death about it.”

- The Bayside Propheceies

Jesus, June 2, 1979

 

The above Messages from Our Lord were given to Veronica Lueken at Bayside, New York.

 

 

LifeSiteNews.com reported on October 9, 2023:

 

by Michael Haynes

 

As the Synod on Synodality continues apace, one chief aspect that has been highlighted is that the organizers are intent on opening up the Holy Eucharist to abuses and desecration.

 

Participants in the Synod on Synodality are now discussing the theme of “Communion” in the second week of the event, which involves looking at aspects of ecumenical relations and issues pertaining to “remarried divorcees, people in polygamous marriages, LGBTQ+ people.”

 

While last week’s opening salvos of the synod examined the topic of “synodality” itself, this week sees the beginning of the crux of the matter, as participants begin to work their way through the three central themes of “communion, participation and mission.”

 

The second of the synod’s five modules began on October 9, with the participants convening the discussions on section B1, drawn directly from the Instrumentum Laboris. As such, this means that the participants are dealing with the discussion questions provided in the synodal worksheet, centered on “Communion that radiates.”

 

The summary questions are thus:

 

 

But in order to assemble these questions and their subsequent discussion points, the participants have previously been told to consider a larger set of questions. These included questions on migrants, on varying points regarding ecumenism, and on the new system of morality that has emerged from Amoris Laetitia.

 

The new morality stemming from that document consists fundamentally in a rejection of certain points of Catholic teaching regarding reception of Holy Communion.

 

 

Amoris Laetitia and the new morality

 

One of the preparatory questions for the synod members’ discernment as part of module B1 is this:

 

How can we create spaces where those who feel hurt by the Church and unwelcomed by the community feel recognized, received, free to ask questions and not judged?

 

In the light of the Post-Synodal Apostolic Exhortation Amoris Laetitia, what concrete steps are needed to welcome those who feel excluded from the Church because of their status or sexuality (for example, remarried divorcees, people in polygamous marriages, LGBTQ+ people, etc.)?

 

This is notable because, as LifeSite reported when the Instrumentum Laboris was first released, the document presents Amoris Laetitia’s promotion of Holy Communion to divorcees in new relationships as being a settled issue.

 

The document states in an earlier passage:

 

Some of the questions that emerged from the consultation of the People of God concern issues on which there is already magisterial and theological teaching to be considered. To give just two examples, we can note the acceptance of remarried divorcees, dealt with in the Post-Synodal Apostolic Exhortation Amoris laetitia, or the inculturation of the liturgy, the subject of the Instruction Varietates legitimae (1994) of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments. The fact that questions continue to emerge on issues like these should not be hastily dismissed, rather, it calls for discernment, and the Synodal Assembly is a privileged forum for so doing.

 

This argument was recently supported by Pope Francis, despite its contradiction of decades of magisterial teaching.

 

Then, in an intervention on Monday by the pro-LGBT Dominican Fr. Timothy Radcliffe O.P., the synod members were once again called to dwell on the issue of the divorced and “remarried” and those in polygamous relationships.

 

Drawing from the Gospel passage of Christ’s encounter with the woman at the well (John 4), Radcliffe highlighted the theme of promoting “communion” and “deeply personal encounters with each other, in which we transcend easy labels.” He also urged “real encounter.”

 

“The people whom St. Paul could not abide were the underhand spies, who gossiped and worked secretly, whispering in the corridors, hiding who they were with deceitful smiles. Open disagreement was not the problem,” he claimed.

 

The Dominican decried how some people feel “excluded” due to having been labelled as “divorced and remarried, gay people, polygamous people.” Radcliffe argued thusly, including also a joke against the Jesuits:

 

So many people feel excluded or marginalized in our Church because we have slapped abstract labels on them: divorced and remarried, gay people, polygamous people, refugees, Africans, Jesuits! A friend said to me the other day: ‘I hate labels. I hate people being put in boxes. I cannot abide these conservatives.’

 

But if you really meet someone, you may become angry, but hatred cannot be sustained in a truly personal encounter. If you glimpse their humanity, you will see the one who creates them and sustains them in being, whose name is ‘I AM.’

 

Why is it that all of a sudden the Church is now catering to those in polygamous relationships? Indeed, it seems as though the Synod organizers are seeking to answer a question that no one is even asking.

 

While the world is now, sadly, well-accustomed to the public demonstrations in support of LGBT issues, as well as the tragic reality of divorcees living in new relationships, apparently such issues are not radical enough for the synod organizers.

 

They have chosen to champion the cause of polygamy, in what seems to be the logical continuation of the arguments made by Amoris Laetitia.

 

 

Re-examining the Instrumentum Laboris

 

With the synod discussions now in full flow at the Vatican, it is worthwhile turning back to the Instrumentum Laboris, the text that underpins the entire event.

 

The Instrumentum Laboris makes mention of certain “obstacles, real or perceived, that have prevented the steps indicated by previous documents from being realised” that “should be considered and reflections offered on how they can be removed.”

 

Continuing, the text states:

 

If, on the other hand, the problem stems from the difficulty of grasping the implications of the documents in ordinary situations or an inability of persons to recognise themselves in what is proposed, a synodal journey of effective reception by the People of God could be the appropriate response. Another instance could be the reappearance of a question which emerges as a sign of a changed reality or situations where there is a need for an “overflow” of Grace. This requires further reflection on the Deposit of Faith and the living Tradition of the Church. [Emphasis added]

 

Vatican officials have downplayed the possibility of change on things like married priests or female deacons – or at least, they’ve downplayed a possible change emerging from this month’s meetings at least. Instead, they have emphasized “listening” and “dialogue.”

 

But disregarding for a moment the question of trusting such claims, the Instrumentum Laboris appears to present a scenario whereby the Church adopts a new relationship with the polygamous and the official could continue to argue that the Church’s teaching hadn’t changed.

 

Those same officials could argue rather that the synod process highlighted a “question” that is a “sign of a changed reality” and indeed of an “‘overflow’ of grace” in order for the Church to correctly respond. They would argue that such a “question” was not a change but merely a “reality” that the Church needed to come to realize.

 

With these passages, a striking possibility is thus established. Thanks to Pope Francis’ writings, the divorced in new unions have already been permitted to receive Holy Communion, contrary to Catholic teaching.

 

By continuing the same argument and employing the schematics of the Instrumentum Laboris, it appears that polygamy is to be the next thing which the Vatican will open up to.

 

 

 

JESUS NEVER CHANGES

"Come out of the darkness, my sisters. You have been misled. Do not follow the fashions of your world. There is no fashion in Heaven. Jesus never changes. There is great punishment ahead for those who follow the world. Do not leave when you are discouraged by those who satan has sent into your convents. Stand forth as an example of purity and godliness. You will not be cast aside by your God, as you will by man, as you stand to defend your God. Pick up your cross and carry it. You will return the habit to the floor."

- The Bayside Prophecies

St. Theresa, November 20, 1972

 

“WE DO NOT CONDONE VARIATIONS AND CHANGES"

"It has grieved Me much in the past, as it grieves Me now, that mankind is making changes to My words. I assure you, My children and pastors within My houses, My Church upon earth, there is no necessity to change My words. Heaven, hell, purgatory, and especially, My children, the word 'hell' must be retained in your prayers.

"Repeat, My child, the confessional prayer.

O my God, I am heartily sorry for having offended Thee, and I confess to all my sins, because I dread the loss of Heaven and the pains of hell, but most of all because I love Thee, my God, Who are all-good and deserving of all my love. I firmly resolve, with the help of Thy grace, to confess my sins, to do penance, and to amend my life. Amen.

"Yes, My child, We do not condone variations and changes. It is the enemies of your God that have set themselves to promote change upon My words. The word of your God is eternal and must not be changed.”

- The Bayside Prophecies

Jesus, February 10, 1977

 

 

 

 

 

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