These Last Days News - January 12, 2022
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20-6. Popular DC Priest Urges Bishops to Be ‘Pastoral’ after Francis’ ‘Harsh’ Crackdown on Latin Mass...
TURN BACK
“This evil has penetrated far into the very heart of My House. You must now turn back and restore My House. I, your God, give you this command for the salvation of your own soul.”
- The Bayside Prophecies
Jesus, August 21, 1976
“I send to My clergy, those whom I have given the grace to represent Heaven upon earth, this warning: You must now return to your traditional rites! You must restore My House from its crumbling exterior and rotting interior. You must rebuild what you seek to destroy--now!
“Many who call themselves My chosen ones have set themselves to destroy from within. Your actions have not gone by unnoticed by the Eternal Father. Error, deception, deceit, in the guise of sanctity and piousness! You are unmasked before the Eternal Father. You shall start little by little and repair the foundation, or you shall be within and destroy.
“I look upon all manner of abominations being committed in My House. Do you think you will go much longer without chastisement? Awaken from your slumber, My clergy! You deceive no one!”
- The Bayside Prophecies
Jesus, November 22, 1975
“This evil has penetrated far into the very heart of My House. You must now turn back and restore My House. I, your God, give you this command for the salvation of your own soul.”
- The Bayside Prophecies
Jesus, August 21, 1976
The above Messages from Our Lady were given to Veronica Lueken at Bayside, New York.
LifeSiteNews.com reported on January 11, 2022:
by Maximilian Doty
A priest called on bishops to be pastoral while dealing with Catholics who attend the Traditional Latin Mass (TLM) in light of the Responsa ad Dubia.
Msgr. Charles Pope, writing in the National Catholic Register, reacted to the Responsa ad Dubia released by Archbishop Arthur Roche of the Congregation for Divine Worship that severely limited access to the TLM and traditional sacraments, asked the bishops to act pastorally toward Catholics attached to the TLM. Pope, a priest for the Archdiocese of Washington, D.C., says he has not “seen such language or harshness directed against any other group, in or outside of the Church,” calling the responsa “singular and shocking.”
Quoting the responsa, Msgr. Pope points out that the guidelines issued by Rome prohibits the TLM from parish settings, including banning listings of the TLM on parish bulletins or the celebration of the TLM while parishioners not attached to the older liturgy are present on church grounds. Further, the TLM cannot be said in a parish setting if another venue for the celebration of Mass is found, effectively banishing the TLM from a parish setting.
“While the good archbishop says there is no intent to marginalize Catholics devoted to the TLM, marginalization is the actual effect of such an edict,” Msgr. Pope wrote. “How is it possible to read the [responsa] as anything but as an annoyed tolerance at best, or an outright rejection at worst?” Pope added that “dissenters and even abortion activists are treated better than this.”
Pope also noted that the responsa seems to limit the canonical rights of bishops, asking whether a prefect in Rome can “deny the canonical right of a bishop to dispense with disciplinary norms for the good of the faithful,” or if a bishop should “really have to ask permission of Rome to exercise a right he already has.”
Pope maintains that bishops need to deal with the responsia with pastoral care, something that he says many bishops have done with Traditiones Custodes, the document released by Pope Francis last July limiting the celebration of the TLM.
“We can only pray for bishops to make careful, courageous and pastoral decisions that may place them in tension with the Congregation for Divine Worship,” Msgr. Pope said. Speaking about his own diocese, Pope says that “we decided decades ago that the best policy was to incorporate the TLM into certain approved parish settings. We did not think it was healthy or wise to seclude traditional Catholics in specialized churches.” Noting the size of the Archdiocese of Washington and other larger dioceses, Pope says that “a [non-parish] setting may not be feasible to adequately supply the needed sites to assist the faithful.”
Vatican II and the Liturgy
Msgr. Pope noted in his op-ed that some older Catholics tend to couple the discussion about the liturgy with the Second Vatican Council. Speaking about the NO, Pope said “the Mass that came forth in 1970 went beyond what the Council Fathers envisioned – in fact, the TLM looks a lot more like what the Council spoke of than the ordinary form that we have today.” “It is simplistic and wrong to identify the current form of the Mass with Vatican II or to claim that those who love the TLM thereby reject the Council,” Msgr. Pope concluded.
He also suggested that those debating the topic of Vatican II and the liturgy would “do well to study that period and ponder what was authentic and what may have strayed from what the Council Fathers set forth.”
Scholar and author Dr. Peter Kwasniewski told LifeSiteNews via email that most Catholics who go to the Traditional Latin Mass aren’t rebelling against Vatican II, let alone its document addressing possible changes to the Mass.
“In itself, the liturgical reform is obviously connected to the Council, and the question remains both of whether the reform plan of the Council was a good one prudentially, and whether the actual reform corresponded to what Sacrosanctum Consilium says and what the Fathers expected and voted for,” he wrote.
“But in practice most who attend the TLM don’t know much about Vatican II and certainly are not attending the TLM because they are anti-Vatican II. In fact, it’s probably a non-question for the majority — something they don’t bother about as they live their day-to-day lives in the 2020s. So, yes, theologians have to wrestle with certain problems, while laity should be left alone to worship God in peace, in accordance with Catholic tradition, if that is what they find spiritually fruitful (and how could it not be? it was for countless saints).”
Kwasniewski also asserted that the Vatican “does not have the authority to suspend or suppress the most ancient and venerable rite of the Latin Church.”
“Those who attempt to do so would instead make schismatics of themselves, separating from the consistent practice and teaching of the Catholic Church over the centuries,” he continued.
“It is impossible to believe that worshiping with the traditional Roman Rite, in and of itself, could ever be a problem, except for modernist ideologues who already dissent from Trent and from the content of the lex orandi of the past millennium.”
Meanwhile, the scholar believes most bishops will do their best to accommodate Catholics who love the TLM.
“It seems to me fair to think that most bishops will find a modus vivendi for their flocks, since they did not ask for this wound to be ripped open again,” he said.
“Some few will come down hard on the traditional Mass and sacramental rites, and some few will provide them more generously, but the majority, I think, will try to bide their time, find compromises, wink at exceptions, that sort of thing,” he added.
“It’s not as if this is the first time in Church history that a decree from Rome has had to be held at arm’s length because it simply doesn’t fit the situation on the ground. I say this not about illegitimate dissent from traditional teaching, but about legitimate distancing from imprudent demands.”
“Many now rebel against their leader, their God-given leader, your Vicar. In matters of faith and morals, man must not change the God-given laws, coming from the seat of Peter, and established through tradition upon earth through My Son's Church.”
- The Bayside Prophecies
Our Lady of the Roses, October 6, 1979
“Because of the fall in Babylon, many new languages were given because of the sin of Babylon. Therefore, as a member of one country, My children, with a universal language, you carried with you your own country's translation, and were you to visit abroad, you could enter upon any foreign edifice, Church of My Son, and feel comfortable and in one with the man, the priest, the one chosen by My Son to represent Him in His House.
“If you were, My child, to go from your United States to France, could you understand the words in French? But, My child, you would recognize the words in Latin and you would have your book with you to read in your American language, just as those in France could read in their French language, bringing upon the world a beautiful and common bond of language among all who have been given the grace to be called to the Roman Catholic Church of My Son.
“Do not leave My Son's Church though, My children, because they have taken this language from among you. You must wait and persevere and weep with My Son for this defilement by man.”
- The Bayside Prophecies
Our Lady of the Roses, April 10, 1976
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